At least four acts have used this name: 1) An active Austrian pop-punk trio, formed in 2001, whose influences include Samiam, Jawbreaker, and the Alkaline Trio. 2) An indie band from Bloomington, IN who were active from approximately 1999-2002, but bothered to record only a few of their songs (as the "k yh l c m r" demo) ; influences included the Panoply Academy Glee Club, Virgin Prunes and Unwound. Two members of this band also recorded jointly as satori_2600, and recently another has resurfaced in Tiny Knives of Portland, Oregon.

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